Category Archives: On a Political Note

Lesson Learned!

Ok everyone, the crisis has been averted. The correction officer who forcibly removed a disruptive, disrespectful student from a group learning environment just lost his job. Whew! The big, bad, white guy has been “dealt with”!
Now…. are we ready to deal with the obstinate attitude that led us down this path in the first place? Do the other kids in the classroom have a right to an education without it being interrupted by an insubordinate, uninterested student? Should we teach our children that their bad choices could lead to a crazy outcome that they won’t be able to control?
Nah… because she was black and he was white. And she was a little baby girl with a pink parasol… and he was a big, bad brute with fangs! All she wanted to do was play with her phone. Sheezzzz….
No! All she wanted to do was… whatever she wanted to do! That’s the problem! She is a child who is supposed to be getting a “free” education; doing what she is told to do to make the learning process successful for everyone.
So parents here is your moment to shine.
Are you going to tell your children that they can punch a correction officer without any consequence?
Or, are you going to tell them to respect the people whom you have empowered in their assigned positions of authority?
Are you going to tell them, “In a civilized, functional society, when you fail to do what you are told to do by a teacher, and you decide to punch a person, you will be physically removed from the room so that class can resume for everyone else.”
You should also tell them, “When you are removed, you will not be able to control how that removal unfolds. It may hurt! That’s why you shouldn’t go down that path! You are in control of the path that you choose.”
Hypothetical Me: What can YOU control, little Johnny?
Johnny: Myself.
Hypothetical Me: Good Boy.
*Galactic Parenting Star Awarded*

Do you WANT to see Racism?

Have you seen the not-so-new social experiment video on racism by PrankNation?
If not, watch it here:
What are your initial thoughts?
I think it’s easy to see racism in this video. In fact, they WANT you to see it.
And if you want to see racism in this video… you will. But this isn’t racism. This is one girl who didn’t want to give her money to someone, and then later made a different choice with someone else.We all know that a lot goes into a decision when someone asks you for money at a bus stop. For one, the second guy had a conversation with the girl before asking her for money. He made a connection first, and that connection would play a big role in my decision if I were asked. What if she was attracted to the second guy and wanted to help him for that reason alone? I don’t begrudge her for trying to prolong her interaction with a man she liked, and neither should you.Still another idea is that she may have felt bad about choosing not to help the first guy, and then saw the second man as a second chance at showing kindness to another human being. When I think of her in this way, I see this encounter in a completely different light, and my world is still at peace. We have no way of knowing the truth, so why not choose to “see” her and the situation in the way that makes your world beautiful?

But back to the implied racism for a moment… I can see why people want to use this as a declarative video that says “YES, Racism Exists!” Ok. So what if it does exist in that random woman’s life. And? How does she have any power over you? I don’t think the people in this video are even in America, let alone your town. So, this doesn’t have to define your life at all. It’s HER experience. SHE is choosing not to give a random man some change. By defining your world by her actions, you are giving her way too much power in your life. She didn’t reject you. She rejected him. And who cares if she did… life goes on.

My newsfeed is full of people posting this video, and I am actually glad to see it. I think it is a perfect illustration of how we create the world we live in. Each moment of your life is full of unique factors. It cheapens our individual experiences to screen all social interactions through a color-based filter and say, “Every ‘no’ in life means racism.” Because it’s just not true.

Yet some people are choosing to be affected negatively by this video.

So, to my friends who are “feeling sad” here’s a thought…. What if this entire thing is staged? It’s possible, I mean it’s made by a team of people who specialize in pranking the public. Why are we just trusting this dude on the parameters of his “shocking experiment”. The girl in this video could be an actor, playing along for the camera. She could be dating the first guy for all we know. Think about that. You are potentially letting a staged performance create the rules of your world. You have decided, based solely on how this scene was presented, that you need to be on guard against girls who won’t share their money at bus stops. Or on the other hand, you have decided to ALWAYS give out your money when asked so that you aren’t labeled “racist”.

If that is the route you take, understand that your decision is based completely on the melanin levels in your skin. This is a decision you have made in the hopes that one day we won’t have to think about the melanin levels in our skin. What? No. We don’t take steps backward in order to move forward.

How about we just make that choice now? How about we just see people as ‘people’. It’s her money. She can choose who she wants to give it to, and she can choose the ‘why’ behind her decision.

Let’s create the world we want… right now.
Don’t give your power away to a random girl at a bus stop.

Harassment? No, I don’t think so.

I’ve watched the viral “Harassment” video going around, where a woman is walking down the street and random men start talking to her, telling her she is beautiful.  I’ve also read some of the many articles and posts full of “expert” analysis on this video. I walked away thinking, “Why are so many people trying so hard to tell me what I should think and feel about this video?” I really don’t see a problem.  If you don’t think what she faced was harassment, I agree with you. If you don’t feel harassed when a man talks to you on the street, don’t allow someone else’s complex to become yours.

My news feed is blasted with article after article analyzing the video and explaining why “cat-calling” is a bad thing for women. Here’s my thought, if someone has to work to make me feel harassed AFTER the fact, the problem is theirs, not yours. The articles are written by people trying to sell women a “victim” label, and we don’t have to buy it.

When I saw the video, I thought, “Yep, this is the mating dance of humanity.” A man sees a woman whom he finds attractive, and he makes a move in the direction of connecting with that woman. Why wouldn’t he? That’s how we are designed to work. We all get together eventually. What is the problem?

Certainly don’t allow someone else to turn this into a melanin issue. Because that’s the other spin I see going around. The color-focused people took one look at that video and started counting the number of blacks and whites represented in it. Wasn’t it nice of the producers to add that part in at the end, writing that she experienced this “harassment” from people of “all backgrounds”? Of course, we didn’t see “all backgrounds” represented. So, they must have edited out all the white guys, right? What about the disabled men?

True story: I was walking down the street in NY when I heard a man’s voice yell out, “Girl you are so fine, please come over here and talk to me.” I smiled in the general direction but kept walking. That’s when I heard, “You aren’t gonna stop and talk to me? Ok… then, I’m going with you!” And I turned around to see a man with no legs pushing his wheel chair up the block to my location. He was grinning from ear to ear at me, and that made me smile too at the thought of him chasing me down the street in a wheel chair. He asked me if I had ever dated a man with no legs.  And then the conversation got dirty with him referencing his 3rd leg and all… so that was the end of the exchange. But the point is, flirting is a part of the mating dance. And someone out there, I’m sure, was attracted to his energy and he eventually met his *match*. I was not the one, so I walked away. But someone else found his energy irresistible and that is life.

So now, what is the takeaway from the “harassment” video? Are assertive women unable to handle assertive men? I have seen video of women in other countries where men physically assault women as they walk down the street. Women cover themselves for protection from men who cannot control their physical urges. But none of that happened in this video. The men in this video were just advertising themselves, offering a potential match to this woman. If you notice, she walked by many restaurants and stores that were also advertising their product to her. What of the restaurants who actually offer you food right there on the street so that you can sample their goods? I have rarely said “no” to that “harassment”. But now that I think about it… HOW DARE THEY! Don’t they know I’m on a diet?

This “harassment” video made me think of another video (equally as scandalous) on the mating dance of the birds of paradise. Check it out below. I particularly like the technique of the male bird at minute 1:32. But get your phone ready, because someone needs to tell the female bird of paradise that she is being “harassed” by that male bird! Let her know that she should feel victimized. Then quickly, call the ACLU!

You might also choose to notice that the male bird in this video has black feathers. You know what that means? Black feathers = black skin! Yep… the producers at BBC Planet Earth are racists! They must have edited out all of the male birds with white feathers…. and of course that bird in the wheelchair.

What is the Norm?

There’s a lot of talk around the 10 minute Mike Brown EyeWitness Crime Scene Video. The press is all over the background conversation that starts at minute 6:30 because of the witness’ report of Mr. Brown “turning back” and attacking the officer. Before you watch it again, I’d like you to consider something that many overlook.

At min. 6:30, the witness is sharing what he saw, while the listener expresses shock as it begins to register in his mind that the man was shot by a police officer. He (and a few others) are floored at this account. He is so stunned, that he asks for the information to be repeated several times. The shock continues for many minutes. It continues on into minute 8:50 where the listener begins to share his own thoughts after he heard the shots go off. 

The listener says that when he heard the shots go off, he thought it was a black person who was “dumpin’ [his gun out] on somebody”. He heard the gun going off from his more distant location, and made that assumption. He then carried that assumption as he walked out to the scene of the crime to investigate the happening. 

He sees the man laying in the street, and the people surrounding the police tape, yet nothing from the scene changes his original conclusion. In his mind, that man is laying dead in the street, because a black citizen killed him.

He then seeks out a witness, and asks for the details around what just happened. He listens to the entire account through the lens of his original assumption. Not until minute 6:55 does it click in his mind that the shooter was not a citizen, but a police officer. He is in complete disbelief for several minutes, asking several times to confirm that this new data is accurate. You can listen to his thoughts on the situation as he shares his original conclusion again with the witness. 

This section of the video should not be ignored. This section should not be dismissed. This section proves two very distinct “norms” that have been adopted by members of this community: 

#1 If you hear gun shots, it is probably a black citizen shooting another black citizen. 

#2 It is shockingly rare for a citizen to be shot by a police officer. 

We should remember these norms when we hear people using this case to sell the idea that the “police are out to kill black men”. Listen to the conversation on this video. The energy of *shock* enters because this shooting is outside of the norms of this community. This is a rare event.

Don’t lose hold of that truth. If it is found that this officer did something tragically wrong in this case, we must remember that this case represents an outlier. Repel the energy that would dare to change your mind on what you know is sound truth. Our society empowers police to serve and protect the citizens. If officers are acting outside of that power, then we remove those officers from their service. We don’t suddenly declare something that is normally “rare”, as “common”. It is not common for police to shoot and kill citizens.

If we can be honest with this, maybe we’ll move to a place where we can stop accepting something that *has* become common in our communities. Maybe we will be ready to change our feelings around Norm #1.

The One Who Detected It, Ejected it!

About the article, about the movie Lucy (in theaters now) — SPOILER ALERT!

Rebuke the message in this article. You don’t have to live in the world this woman is perpetuating. She is playing to the fleshly desire to see racism where it does not exist.

Remember, you always see what you are looking to see. And if someone can see it, that means they have it in their heart to see it. And the white-guilt filled, liberal, author of the above article is a prime example of that statement being true.

Read the article… I’ll wait….

Now, there’s so much to attack about the writing in this article, that I don’t even know where to begin. Can we please see the story for what it is? Lucy is not the most evolved human in the movie as the author suggests. She was a drug mule that went on an accidental drug trip, and then died!

In fact, ALL of the white characters in the first half of the film are portrayed as drug addicted, helpless idiots. If you remember, each of the mules are white. Her white room mate was a dolt. Even the white dude on the airplane who witnessed Lucy disappearing was the stereo-typical fat, balding, impotent, business-class white male. But those images are completely ok with this author, because they are white people. The author only cares about people of color and how we might feel about Lucy and her “enlightened blue eyes”. Though I remember Lucy’s eyes turning reptilian green at the point where her mind opened, but accuracy is never necessary when trying to invoke a feeling. MORE… the most BRILLIANT, unDrugged, unaltered mind in the movie was a black man (Morgan Freeman) who was sought out by Lucy for his help. You see, even though Lucy was becoming more “advanced”, she still needed the man (or “black man”, for the color-focused) to explain it all to her. In addition, she needed an Arab man-of-color to help her “remember what its like to be human”. (Maybe the feminist should really be angry.)

But all that is cast aside by this author because some people are blinded by Lucy’s blond hair, and they can’t get passed their own limitations around how they ACHE to see racism in everything.

Can we just watch a movie for the message? Can we just see it for what it is, entertainment? No… we have to count the black people… count the women… count the gays… make sure everyone is represented fairly. We have to look at things with our simple, little minds, based on colors and groups. (There were no little people represented! CALL THE ACLU!)

This white author is being shared over and over on FB as “a hero”,  a “deep thinker”, an “ally”. When she is nothing of the sort! Don’t hold her up the way she says Hollywood holds up other white women. She is not the deepest thinker among us. She can’t even see that SHE IS THE VERY LUCY SHE HATES. But this article has been shared on my news feed by MANY black people. And of course, black people will continue to share this article, because we are trained in that color-focused world to always celebrate white people who are on “our side”.

I say reject the whole thing. Reject that world. Don’t let someone MAKE you see racism in this film, when there is no racism.

Remember, there are people who are still trying to keep your mind enslaved in a racially controlled world where they still have all of the power. That’s the world of the 10%. Don’t go back there! Let that world die! When you see a blond woman in a movie… choose to see a HUMAN in a movie! Who cares the intentions of the messenger, when you have power over your own mind to take what you WANT from the message.

(Say that again!)

When you have power over your own mind, you can take whatever message you want from a movie, no matter the original intention of the messenger. Now, that is FREEDOM.

In this way, you will never be a victim, but always victorious. You won’t have to walk in “protection mode” from the evil powers-that-be, because you will be flourishing in a world full of unlimited potential focused only on possibilities, not stifled by trying to control the motives of others. This is the world available through the use of more of your brain! This is a message from the real science behind the movie. And this is the opportunity you can easily lose just by allowing someone with the old, label-focused thinking to bring you back into their world. Choose to transcend that thinking. (God can show you the code!)

When you think of the movie Lucy, forget the skin color of the actors, choose instead to focus on Morgan Freeman and the words his character shared throughout the film. Open your mind to the possibilities for all of HUMANITY; for all of God’s creation.

Open your mind to an existence beyond your melanin!

Because we can use more than just 10% of our brains.

Nancy Pelosi IS Miss Millie

When Nancy Pelosi (the quintessential “Limousine Liberal”) went down to the Mexican boarder this week and declared “I wish I could take all those children home with me,” I was reminded of the many movies and books depicting the white slave owners in the south, perusing the auctions as though black people were pets.

They’d just browse though the crowds, casually pinching the cheeks of the children, smiling and petting hair as their mothers clung to them tightly, praying that they wouldn’t be separated at the sale. Its the same spirit of the elite, privileged, progressives looking down even years later when there was still separation between Americans based on melanin. That same spirit where the Nancy Pelosi’s of the day (ref. Miss Millie from The Color Purple) were a protected class, ruling over the “poor innocent blacks” who “don’t know any better” and always “need our help to survive”. I mean, where would we be without those loving elite?

Even now, they tower over the rest of us as though they, in their place of power, have control over the very life and death of another human being. How fitting that its the same Democratic Party bestowing their progressive compassion back then to blacks (earning their multi-generational unwavering support) now doing this same routine with Latinos hoping to again garner the same result.

Back then, the Republicans stood for freedom and equality, so the people who were focused on content of character had a place to go in support of like-minded liberty. Yet now, the Republican progressives are just looking to be the better “master”. Even though the Democrats are more practiced at ruling people-of-color, the Republicans are hoping that if they join in and drop all of the principles that created this nation, the new “freed Latinos” will serve them instead.

Have we as free people learned nothing from this human cycle? Could we choose in this moment, at this opportunity to say “NO” to being ruled and manipulated by the self-imposed elite class? Can we see that this problem at the boarder is created by the very people who are positioning themselves to “save” us all from it? Don’t look at the surface… dare to consider there is more at play here. Don’t pick between two slave masters. Become the “indivisible, under God” (not man) that our collective ancestors fought for us to become.

Nancy Pelosi IS Miss Millie. And in a country focused on the opportunity for each individual, to her progressive patronization, we should all say, “HELL NOoo!”

Watch: Miss Millie – Hell No!

Miss Millie

 

Daring Discussion: Abortion

Over the course of 7 days, I chatted with a friend on a normally tough topic. We chatted about abortion – from two different sides. We could have avoided the whole thing, or ended it at any point. But we were brave, and the chat was respectful… even healthy. I am glad for the result, yes. But, regardless of the result, I am thankful we both stayed at the virtual table, and had the talk.

*Day 1*

Carole: What would you label yourself in politics? What fits you most closely?

Kim: I consider myself a Democrat.

Carole: Can you tell me why Democrat?

Kim: Mainly because I am pro-choice and for gay marriage.

Carole: Wow – then yeah… you are in the right party. Ok. What is your Religion?

Kim: Christian.

Carole: Now that’s interesting, Kim. How do you reconcile Christianity with Pro-choice?
Its hard to tell someone’s tone in chat… but I really am just curious – I am not trying make you feel like you have to defend anything. We can agree and disagree – you know that. :)

Kim: I totally get that.

Carole: Soooo, please share… How do you reconcile
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Kim: I think if a woman chooses to end a pregnancy, no matter the reason, that should be between her and God.

Carole: All choices are between you and God. Interesting…. but as a Christian… you have decided to have a general opinion that its ok? In general, you say its ok if they choose.

Kim: Yes.

Carole: Wow. What in Christianity says its ok to make that choice?

Kim: Just because it isn’t something I would do I don’t think it is appropriate for my beliefs to be a factor in someone else having the freedom to do so. Same thing with same-sex marriage if you don’t agree with it then don’t marry someone of the same gender it’s that simple.

(Long Pause)

Kim: Are you too outraged to speak to me?

Carole: No – I have a friend here… so I am multi-tasking — But, Kim I do want to challenge you a little about what you said… just a slight, healthy challenge on what your role is as a Christian. So, yes I agree that we shouldn’t tell another person what to do…. but there are principles that humans agree to in this world. We have agreements about whether or not its ok to walk into someone’s home and take over. We have agreements about what is ok to eat – you can eat a cow… but not dog. We have societal rules and we have laws about walking up to someone and hitting them across the face. There are rules and laws that we all agree to uphold, and people always have the choice to break them… but there are consequences to breaking these agreements. Some severe and some minor. So consider abortion… yes, everyone has the choice… but as a society, what is it YOU want our society to say about abortion? I want a society where we say that ALL life is precious and worthy of an opportunity at an existence. I want to live in a society where the baseline is holding the only kind of life, innocent God-given Life at the height of sacred honor. What comes next is personal choice…. but as a society and in conversation and in my own life and as a believer in Christ I state with passion that abortion is wrong. Period. I don’t see how a Christian can think otherwise…. which is why I ask you to further explain… so I can see how you reached YOUR conclusion.

*Day 2*

Carole: Now… did YOU get offended? lol

Kim: No no. For some reason I only got the first sentence of your message yesterday so I was like okay…there’s nothing to respond to lol. The rest of the message just came through anyway…my best friend’s niece gave birth to a baby boy a couple months ago. Which at first glance sounds lovely but there is more to the story. Caitlyn was 13 when the baby was conceived, the father was 35. He is sitting in jail right now and will probably be there for a long time (which is exactly where he belongs). Caitlyn along with her Mom and older sister have been in and out homeless shelters her entire life. She was molested by more than one of her father’s friends from the age of 6. She has also dabbled in drugs, promiscuity, truancy, etc. So when I say I’m pro-choice that’s the kind of scenario I have in mind. Only God knows what will become of Caitlyn and her son- statistically, the odds are not in their favor. Now I’m not saying she should have aborted her baby, she made the right choice for her but, that might not be the right choice for another girl in a similar situation.

Carole: I get it, Kim. I have stories too… I am just presenting the “principle” of it. Here’s an example… So I was writing on a blog about gun control and a woman said that she has a gun for protection but she is “not one of those freaks who shoot first and ask questions later” she said, “If they come in my house, they can take whatever they want from the 1st floor, but if they come upstairs I would shoot them!” Ok… so I paused at that because YOUR house starts at the door. But she has compromised her principles to draw the line at the second floor. Why concede, and set that as her baseline for a robbery that may NEVER happen? Why not hold you principle at the door and then make a decision at the time of the robbery whether or not you are going to let them have the first floor before you shoot? When it comes to rape and incest, they make up lest than 3% of all abortions. I think our principles should be at valuing life and then taking those 3% on a case by case, individual basis, don’t you? Why open the door to a value base that ALL abortion is ok because of the rare, awful cases of the 3%? Abortion has been happening since the beginning of time… can you agree that we should have a standard for everyone that we hold to… and then we deal with the outliers as they happen on an individual basis with love and compassion?

*Day 7*

Kim: So, who would make the decision about the 3%? Would women have to go before a committee and disclose what happened to them and explain why they think they should be allowed to terminate a pregnancy? Would they have to sit on a bench in a court house or something waiting to hear the committee’s decision? I don’t think any woman has walked into or out of an abortion clinic with a big smile spread across their face. I’m sure it is a very difficult choice to make, women should be allowed to decide for themselves because no one knows better than them about their life. 100% of them deserve the same love and compassion. I don’t think being a Christian and pro-choice are mutually exclusive.

Carole: Well, we disagree. God created life… We aren’t to take that life away. I encourage you to consider the 97% and if you want to escort the 3% through the process to justice – well, that might be your calling. Help them personally. Don’t create legislation for the rest of us to pay for killing babies as birth control. BTW – I have seen with my own eyes more than 1 women leave an abortion clinic with a big smile on their face. I know of a person who has had 9 of them. So, this issue is personal… not hypothetical for me.

Kim: 9?

Carole: Yep. Disgusting.
When she was scheduling her 7th, I had just found out that I might never have children.
Needless to say, the conversation got ugly.

Kim: That person needs to be in an institution bcuz that is absolute insanity!
Do you believe in the death penalty?

Carole: You don’t have to tell me! And in the next breath, I say she doesn’t need to be a mom! That’s for sure! But there is something to consider… if she was surrounded by a society of people who valued life and didn’t present abortion as a form of birth control… maybe she would be forced to be more responsible. Maybe she would make better choices if she was faced with more responsible consequences – or at least had to face a culture of people and neighbors and friends who made her feel like crap for being so trashy. Maybe we would all rise to a better life if we were all held to higher standards. But not now… sex is like taking a dump – you can do it anywhere with anyone – and children are a choice… not a blessing from above.

Carole: Yes – I believe in the death penalty. I hope you aren’t comparing innocent life with the consequences of the worst evil in our society? Why do they both get the same “punishment”?

Kim: No I am not comparing them, I was just curious what your thoughts were.

Carole: Oh – ok

Kim: Would you consider adopting or becoming a foster parent?

Carole: Of course – Chris and I were talking about that yesterday. My parents took in children throughout my childhood. I have had over 14 foster siblings. Some of them still call today.

Kim: You definitely should. I would like to do it once I am married and more settled.

Carole: Will you consider holding the opinion that abortion is wrong. Hold that one close and then show compassion to those who need help with rape and incest situations? Will you consider being Pro-life as a baseline?

Kim: 7 years ago I was in a downward spiral, I was in the grips of severe depression. I was irresponsible and made some poor choices. In the midst of all that I found myself pregnant. I walked into an abortion clinic laid on the table and as soon as the doctor came into the room I jumped up, got dressed and ran out of there. A few weeks later I ended up having a miscarriage. When I think of how scared, alone, and desperate I felt in the days leading up to almost terminating the pregnancy…

Carole: Kim… you almost compromised a value base that I think you still have. You are a woman… a protector, a holder and a giver of life! To even think otherwise goes against our genetic makeup! No wonder its hurtful to our spirit.
I am not talking about miscarriage.
I am talking about a society that we work together to create; one that has PRINCIPLES!
We don’t compromise on them! We stand firm on innocent life having value! 
Can we stand there together?

Kim: This may sound awful…but I feel like who am I to take away someone else’s choices when even I could have done the same thing. I can’t do anything to help a woman facing an unwanted pregnancy.

Carole: Who are you? You are a mother! You are a friend! You are a fellow human being! Its ok to say NO to something. Who are you to take away a “right” of a man to rape a child? You are Kim, that’s who! And some things are not ok. People have the “right” to make many choices… but we have a responsibility to decide which ones will craft our society; which ones are an abomination to God and his creation. Rape is one… and murder is one… and there is no way around it… abortion is murder. Life was there… now it is not. Don’t talk yourself out of it. You know.

Kim: I suffered another miscarriage several months after having the first…not a day goes by that I don’t think about those babies…what they would have looked like…who they would be today…I even named them…

Carole: I am so sorry Kim.

Kim: I see now that I was wrong

Carole: This is not miscarriage we are taking about, honey.

Kim: I get it

Carole: So – will you stand with me as a pro-lifer?

Kim: I will

Carole: YEA!!!!
 We have a principle! 
Oh…. I feel good!

Kim: Me too. 
It doesn’t make me a hypocrite to say that something is wrong even though
I almost did it?

Carole: NEVER! 
It makes you a better witness to talk with someone on your old path!
You know what it feels like! Who better for God to use!
Does it make me a hypocrite to talk about how great marriage can be when I’ve been divorced?
Never! Because I know! I am an expert! And you are too.

Kim: I understand

Carole: Kim – I am crying. You blessed my heart
I am so proud of us for talking about this topic… its a topic most people avoid like the plague! But we did it! We had the discussion and we still love each other. We were loving throughout… even before you said you would stand with me. I am so proud of us.

Kim: Yeah, I was worried that when I first put my opinion out there that it would get nasty.

Carole: No. But its a touchy topic. I mean… it’s innocent life. People respond to that with passion. But they should, right?

Kim: Right. Every life is precious. Regardless of how they came to be. Honestly I don’t think there is such a thing as unplanned pregnancy, it may be a surprise to us but God has plans for each of us long before we get here.